Yankees All-Time Team v.2012

After a short hiatus, we're back to the 2012 All-Time Teams and today we're taking a look at the Yankees.

Last year's inaugural All-Time team can be seen here.

Last year's team was one of the first that we constructed and we knew that this was one that needed to be revisited.  We had to add three starting pitchers and an infielder to last year's team in order to make it congruent with the rest of our All-Time teams.  In addition, there were some changes that we felt needed to be made to the roster.

We considered Bernie Williams over Roger Maris and while Maris is a bit of a lightning rod with the Yankee faithful (and Bernie is sort of a folk hero), there's no denying that what Maris did with the Yankees.  Winning back to back MVP awards and hitting 61 home runs to break Ruth's single-season record is historic and worthy of recognition on this team.

We were also able to make amends to a slightly regretful decision we made last year by adding Yogi Berra as the extra infielder.  Admittedly, Bill Dickey made the inaugural team over Berra largely to generate a response... in hindsight, Berra and his MVP's were the better choice but I think that both players deserve recognition and thankfully, we're able to do that with the expanded rosters.

Among those on the current roster, we considered Robinson Cano and Mark Teixeira as newcomers but didn't feel that they had done enough to supplant their incumbents (Cano might have one more year before he takes over for Lazzeri - a decent postseason performance would have certainly helped his stock but unfortunately for him and the Yankees, that didn't happen).

For the starting pitching, we agreed early on to add Lefty Gomez - we felt that the Southpaw Hall of Famer was the next best after Whitey Ford, for sure, ranking among the top five all-time among Yankees in most pitching categories while boasting an unblemished 6-0 postseason record.  After that, his Hall of Fame teammate, Red Ruffing, made our list for similar reasons - ranked second in all-time wins as a Yankee, Ruffing was a four-time 20-game winner and a tremendous postseason pitcher (7-2, 2.63 ERA).  He missed two years late in his career due to WWII enlistment, otherwise, he would have probably reached 300 career wins.  His 335 complete games ranks 29th all-time.  Ruffing is also one of the greatest hitting pitchers of all time, boasting a career .269 batting average and 36 home runs!

Mel Stottlmyre, Andy Pettitte and Herb Pennock were the first three starting pitchers to miss the cut on this  All-Time team, with the distance between Stottlemyre and Guidry razor thin.  Mc and Hersh have debated Stottlemyre/Guidry before and something tells me this won't be the last time we hear from that one.

Here's our team.  Tell us what you think.

C - Bill Dickey
1B - Lou Gehrig
2B - Tony Lazzeri
SS - Derek Jeter
3B - Alex Rodriguez
IF - Yogi Berra
OF - Babe Ruth
OF - Mickey Mantle
OF - Joe Dimaggio
DH - Roger Maris
SP - Whitey Ford
SP - Lefty Gomez
SP - Red Ruffing
SP - Ron Guidry
RP - Mariano Rivera

That's ten Hall of Famers, two sure-thing Hall of Famers (Jeter and Mo') and one A-Rod... making 13 potential Hall of Famers on one team (out of 15 spots).  Truly remarkable.

6 comments:

  1. I would pick Joe Gordon for my second baseman

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  2. And you wouldn't be wrong, Rich. I believe that Gordon was a better player, as evidenced by many of the underlying metrics. Fair or not, it came down to 12 years as a Yankee for Poosh em up Tony to 7 for Gordon (who missed to to WW2). Both are HOF selections -' voted in by the Veterans Committee- but Lazzeri has a little more name recognition, having played 12 years... It's almost a pick em. We tend to lean tenure for these teams as that really speaks to the purpose of these teams. Thanks for commenting!

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  3. I agree with you about tenure.Anyone to be considered for a clubs all time best team should have at least seven or eight full seasons with that club.I will consider it a tossup

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  4. I'd probably replace Dickey with Berra and put someone else as a utility infielder since I think Dickey is somewhat overrated. Might replace Maris at DH with Nettles or Bernie Williams.. but maybe not. Might replace Ruffing with Mel Stottlemyre (Better pitcher, much worse teams), but overall now that they can plug in Rodriguez and Jeter this is far and away the strongest of any All Time team.

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  5. Dickey and Berra are "neck n neck" except when you get to BA and OBP. With my Success and Longevity system I have been using for years, it's Dickey. All the other positions are obvious. With my system Bernie Williams is the DH, edging out Don Mattingly. I also put in a 5th starter with Andy Pettitte. Also added a setup pitcher for Rivera with Mike Stanton. I also have a bench for each position. Easily the best of all the franchises.

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  6. I like Willie Randolph over Tony Lazzeri at 2B. Don't agree with the Roger Maris selection. Would take Bernie Williams or Roy White over him.

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